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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mmmmm, i had a delicious steak last night!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
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		<title>By: Tasha A.</title>
		<link>http://challengeoppression.com/2010/02/16/domination-and-rape-in-avatar-this-is-respect-for-animals/#comment-3116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tasha A.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 22:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By my post I ment no disrespect to you or your veiws. I think what you do is wonderful and amazing! It is an isperation to me and to others, I&#039;m sure :) I just disagreed with this particular post. Keep on fighting for animals and their rights, they are worth it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By my post I ment no disrespect to you or your veiws. I think what you do is wonderful and amazing! It is an isperation to me and to others, I&#8217;m sure :) I just disagreed with this particular post. Keep on fighting for animals and their rights, they are worth it!</p>
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		<title>By: Tasha A.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tasha A.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 21:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with some of your points but others I disagree with. Here is my option  on this post. You or others may agree or disagree with me.
1) I see your point (and agree to some degree) when refurring to the &#039;respect&#039; shown when killing the creatures in the film. But I also disagree. As humans we kill for fun, trophy items and such. We show absolutly no respect for what we kill and eat. (thats evident in factory farming and people&#039;s choice not to change it.) But the natives kill for need only and not for selfish reasons, and show respect for the creatures that they kill. If more people showed respect for living creatures, there would be FAR less animal abuse and such. 

Even if someone choses to &#039;take from the film&#039; that the idea, it&#039;s okay to kill a creature with disgusting brutality as long as you show respect. They are still not actually respectful to the creature. Just taking in a meaningless, religous and empty concept.
If they actually had respect for the creature they wouldn&#039;t allow it to be killed in such a disgusting manner. (Buy buying it or supporting it in many ways.)

2) &#039;Rape&quot; scene:
Again, i agree with some of your points. But I personally think, that coming to the &#039;rape&#039; conclusion for this scene, is evidence of the sickness of the human race. (not saying one is sick to come to this conclusion but that we are so overexposed to rape and such that we see it in innocent things.). For example, I watched that scene in the movie and the rape idea, did not even cross my mind. My impression was a condensed taming process. But with the evidence you have given I can see why you/others would see it as rape. And even broguht me to question what I previously thought of the scene. But I do know that if you overanylize anything, you can see it as somthing it was not ment to be. I am confident that this scene was not ment to be a representation of rape. It can look like it to one who is trying to over complicate or analize the scene.

As for your point that  &quot;The ikran became subject to Jake’s will; the ikran got nothing out of their “relationship.” Isnt that true with all of our pets? For example a pet dog. People get warm fuzzy feelings from adopting a dog, thinking that the animal needs us. (Nothing wrong with adopting pets... mine are adopted.) But my point being we think they need us, in reality we need our pets alot more then they need us. Yes, we give them food and shelter... all of which they could find on their own without us. So there for, is it wrong to have a pet dog because it gets nothing out of the relationship? Of couse not. The ikran didn&#039;t seem miserable with Jake... yes it was tamed but not separated from its wild habitat and customs like our pets are.
Yes, the theme is domination. But not all domination is wrong. Look at a pack of wolves. One wolf dominated the rest in order to keep order and stability to the pack. Even a realtionship must have a &#039;domination&#039; in the sence that both partners cannot make the choices... especally there is a disagreement. One (usally the man) must make the final choice but also be prepared to take the brunt of the reprocussions his choice brings.
If we don&#039;t &#039;dominate&#039; our pets they are mentally unhealthy and their home is in a constant state of chaos. I did not find Jakes relationship with the ikran unhealthy and over dominating.

3) Movie similarities. So many similarities between 
avatar and Furngully! Quite amusing actually eh? But when i saw Avatar for the first time I thought &quot;Pocahontas&quot;! All three movies have such similarities. I think it&#039;s good to have a movie like that in every generation. Happy Feet for example...
It wasn&#039;t the plot (no matter how unoriginal) that make Avatar such a hit. It was the special effects. Not matter what the veiws, every single person who saw it can&#039;t disagree that is was breath takingly beautiful!

Thanks for reading.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with some of your points but others I disagree with. Here is my option  on this post. You or others may agree or disagree with me.<br />
1) I see your point (and agree to some degree) when refurring to the &#8216;respect&#8217; shown when killing the creatures in the film. But I also disagree. As humans we kill for fun, trophy items and such. We show absolutly no respect for what we kill and eat. (thats evident in factory farming and people&#8217;s choice not to change it.) But the natives kill for need only and not for selfish reasons, and show respect for the creatures that they kill. If more people showed respect for living creatures, there would be FAR less animal abuse and such. </p>
<p>Even if someone choses to &#8216;take from the film&#8217; that the idea, it&#8217;s okay to kill a creature with disgusting brutality as long as you show respect. They are still not actually respectful to the creature. Just taking in a meaningless, religous and empty concept.<br />
If they actually had respect for the creature they wouldn&#8217;t allow it to be killed in such a disgusting manner. (Buy buying it or supporting it in many ways.)</p>
<p>2) &#8216;Rape&#8221; scene:<br />
Again, i agree with some of your points. But I personally think, that coming to the &#8216;rape&#8217; conclusion for this scene, is evidence of the sickness of the human race. (not saying one is sick to come to this conclusion but that we are so overexposed to rape and such that we see it in innocent things.). For example, I watched that scene in the movie and the rape idea, did not even cross my mind. My impression was a condensed taming process. But with the evidence you have given I can see why you/others would see it as rape. And even broguht me to question what I previously thought of the scene. But I do know that if you overanylize anything, you can see it as somthing it was not ment to be. I am confident that this scene was not ment to be a representation of rape. It can look like it to one who is trying to over complicate or analize the scene.</p>
<p>As for your point that  &#8220;The ikran became subject to Jake’s will; the ikran got nothing out of their “relationship.” Isnt that true with all of our pets? For example a pet dog. People get warm fuzzy feelings from adopting a dog, thinking that the animal needs us. (Nothing wrong with adopting pets&#8230; mine are adopted.) But my point being we think they need us, in reality we need our pets alot more then they need us. Yes, we give them food and shelter&#8230; all of which they could find on their own without us. So there for, is it wrong to have a pet dog because it gets nothing out of the relationship? Of couse not. The ikran didn&#8217;t seem miserable with Jake&#8230; yes it was tamed but not separated from its wild habitat and customs like our pets are.<br />
Yes, the theme is domination. But not all domination is wrong. Look at a pack of wolves. One wolf dominated the rest in order to keep order and stability to the pack. Even a realtionship must have a &#8216;domination&#8217; in the sence that both partners cannot make the choices&#8230; especally there is a disagreement. One (usally the man) must make the final choice but also be prepared to take the brunt of the reprocussions his choice brings.<br />
If we don&#8217;t &#8216;dominate&#8217; our pets they are mentally unhealthy and their home is in a constant state of chaos. I did not find Jakes relationship with the ikran unhealthy and over dominating.</p>
<p>3) Movie similarities. So many similarities between<br />
avatar and Furngully! Quite amusing actually eh? But when i saw Avatar for the first time I thought &#8220;Pocahontas&#8221;! All three movies have such similarities. I think it&#8217;s good to have a movie like that in every generation. Happy Feet for example&#8230;<br />
It wasn&#8217;t the plot (no matter how unoriginal) that make Avatar such a hit. It was the special effects. Not matter what the veiws, every single person who saw it can&#8217;t disagree that is was breath takingly beautiful!</p>
<p>Thanks for reading.</p>
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		<title>By: GLaDOS's Mailer Daemon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GLaDOS's Mailer Daemon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The author of the original post is indeed fairly ignorant.

The author fails to even acknowledge the other more prominent perspective, being that the exchange is actually consensual, as is mentioned in the movie itself, and the Na&#039;vi and the Banshees simply have developed an odd sort of symbiotic mutualism, but one with certain requirements.  Earlier on, it is most likely that there wouldn&#039;t be a struggle between the two at all, but with that inexperienced and unfit Na&#039;vi would pair with a Banshee, and from the looks of Jake&#039;s first flight, those who would have been worse off than him would probably have gotten both of them killed.  Thus, the behavioral tendency to engage in a struggle to &quot;test&quot; the fitness of the Na&#039;vi emerged as a component of their symbiotic mutualism, which at the worst case would result in a Na&#039;vi dead, rather than both of them in a more likely accident.

The author should realize that their relationship makes sense in terms of symbiosis.  Evolution isn&#039;t &quot;nice&quot; or &quot;compassionate.&quot;  It just is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author of the original post is indeed fairly ignorant.</p>
<p>The author fails to even acknowledge the other more prominent perspective, being that the exchange is actually consensual, as is mentioned in the movie itself, and the Na&#8217;vi and the Banshees simply have developed an odd sort of symbiotic mutualism, but one with certain requirements.  Earlier on, it is most likely that there wouldn&#8217;t be a struggle between the two at all, but with that inexperienced and unfit Na&#8217;vi would pair with a Banshee, and from the looks of Jake&#8217;s first flight, those who would have been worse off than him would probably have gotten both of them killed.  Thus, the behavioral tendency to engage in a struggle to &#8220;test&#8221; the fitness of the Na&#8217;vi emerged as a component of their symbiotic mutualism, which at the worst case would result in a Na&#8217;vi dead, rather than both of them in a more likely accident.</p>
<p>The author should realize that their relationship makes sense in terms of symbiosis.  Evolution isn&#8217;t &#8220;nice&#8221; or &#8220;compassionate.&#8221;  It just is.</p>
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		<title>By: Amelia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amelia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seriously?

come on, its a film for starters, and a damn good one at that. The Navi live amongst side the animals in harmony. 1. animals kill eachother as it is in the food chain, thats called nature and it happens all the time,, sorry to break it to you. And its how other animals survive. its called life. seems the film wasnt fairytale enough for you, and the reality was a little too much 2. ‘rape’? sorry thats hillarious, how exactly were they raping the animals lives? Those ikran live free in the skies, and in a sense they have a bond with their rider, a friendship. so mate chill out a bit.

Its a film which supports the animals and nature, thats one of its main themes, and its amazing how you have missed that and reacted to it like that. Appreciate the film for its push on all things living fighting back and being in one with nature. Not little scrawny things that you really dont need to pick up on]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously?</p>
<p>come on, its a film for starters, and a damn good one at that. The Navi live amongst side the animals in harmony. 1. animals kill eachother as it is in the food chain, thats called nature and it happens all the time,, sorry to break it to you. And its how other animals survive. its called life. seems the film wasnt fairytale enough for you, and the reality was a little too much 2. ‘rape’? sorry thats hillarious, how exactly were they raping the animals lives? Those ikran live free in the skies, and in a sense they have a bond with their rider, a friendship. so mate chill out a bit.</p>
<p>Its a film which supports the animals and nature, thats one of its main themes, and its amazing how you have missed that and reacted to it like that. Appreciate the film for its push on all things living fighting back and being in one with nature. Not little scrawny things that you really dont need to pick up on</p>
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		<title>By: GLaDOS's Mailer Daemon</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 04:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tha Hazzuccino</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 06:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did people suddenly think that the navi and pandora were real because it was in 3d or something? No, it really was a just a movie. 

and this is how movies go: they create rules for their own universes. the rule for this universe was: if the ikran is meant to be yours, meant to be bonded with you, IT IS GOING TO FIGHT YOU. that means, it&#039;s going to make you deserve to ride it. also, it being a movie, the scene of acquiring an ikran had to be exciting to watch. it couldn&#039;t just be, &quot;oh hey jake, jump on my back and ride me, we&#039;re in the wild here.&quot; people would have felt the scene was lame.
but back within the movie universe, every other ikran that didn&#039;t want to be bonded with jake didn&#039;t care for him one way or another. there was no forcing of the ones that didn&#039;t want him.

for me, this scene makes perfect sense. the ikran is this wild, free, powerful creature. it will let you bond with it, if you can handle it. it shouldn&#039;t just roll over and let you ride it. it means you must be tenacious to earn the right to fly.

btw, why do women want to be impressed before letting a guy date her or sleep with her? because it&#039;s a display of quality, so that the woman knows she isn&#039;t giving herself to some lame-ass loser. and as far as i&#039;m concerned that&#039;s perfectly acceptable to me. (okay, i know this isn&#039;t always the case, but it illustrates my point.)

people find any reason to be offended. really, stop fighting for the animals on pandora.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did people suddenly think that the navi and pandora were real because it was in 3d or something? No, it really was a just a movie. </p>
<p>and this is how movies go: they create rules for their own universes. the rule for this universe was: if the ikran is meant to be yours, meant to be bonded with you, IT IS GOING TO FIGHT YOU. that means, it&#8217;s going to make you deserve to ride it. also, it being a movie, the scene of acquiring an ikran had to be exciting to watch. it couldn&#8217;t just be, &#8220;oh hey jake, jump on my back and ride me, we&#8217;re in the wild here.&#8221; people would have felt the scene was lame.<br />
but back within the movie universe, every other ikran that didn&#8217;t want to be bonded with jake didn&#8217;t care for him one way or another. there was no forcing of the ones that didn&#8217;t want him.</p>
<p>for me, this scene makes perfect sense. the ikran is this wild, free, powerful creature. it will let you bond with it, if you can handle it. it shouldn&#8217;t just roll over and let you ride it. it means you must be tenacious to earn the right to fly.</p>
<p>btw, why do women want to be impressed before letting a guy date her or sleep with her? because it&#8217;s a display of quality, so that the woman knows she isn&#8217;t giving herself to some lame-ass loser. and as far as i&#8217;m concerned that&#8217;s perfectly acceptable to me. (okay, i know this isn&#8217;t always the case, but it illustrates my point.)</p>
<p>people find any reason to be offended. really, stop fighting for the animals on pandora.</p>
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		<title>By: RadicalReason</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 03:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m going to address both of the points you made, one by one. Here goes:

1. &quot;Just a movie&quot;
This is the entertainment industy we&#039;re talking about... It has the power to influence young minds - children. They are our future. If they begin to think human domination is justifiable, then Earth is basically screwed.

2. &quot;this crap about rape is pretty rediculous&quot; &quot;&quot;it choose to fight him, so he defended himself by capturing the ikran and then bonding with it.&quot;
Are you saying that rape is of no importance in &quot;just a movie&quot;? The Ikran was defending himself. Jake was the attacker and he could have backed off if he wanted. &quot;Capturing&quot; signifies offense, not defense. 
As for the matter of the Ikran coming to Jake&#039;s rescue...  It&#039;s called Stockholm Syndrome. You can Google it.


Please learn how to spell and capitalize (hint: you click the shift button). Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to address both of the points you made, one by one. Here goes:</p>
<p>1. &#8220;Just a movie&#8221;<br />
This is the entertainment industy we&#8217;re talking about&#8230; It has the power to influence young minds &#8211; children. They are our future. If they begin to think human domination is justifiable, then Earth is basically screwed.</p>
<p>2. &#8220;this crap about rape is pretty rediculous&#8221; &#8220;&#8221;it choose to fight him, so he defended himself by capturing the ikran and then bonding with it.&#8221;<br />
Are you saying that rape is of no importance in &#8220;just a movie&#8221;? The Ikran was defending himself. Jake was the attacker and he could have backed off if he wanted. &#8220;Capturing&#8221; signifies offense, not defense.<br />
As for the matter of the Ikran coming to Jake&#8217;s rescue&#8230;  It&#8217;s called Stockholm Syndrome. You can Google it.</p>
<p>Please learn how to spell and capitalize (hint: you click the shift button). Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: robotsvdinosaurs</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Stephanie for pointing out what I thought was by far the most disturbing part of the movie!  I for one really enjoyed Avatar, saw it 4 times in theaters (three of those times were in Imax) and thought the effects were beautiful. But each freaking time I saw that scene with the ikran I just got more and more sickened. I was recently watching the dvd and I had to fastforward the scene, it&#039;s so disturbing. That is just some BLATANT rape imagery (and kaden, I&#039;m guessing most people don&#039;t think Jake literally raped the ikran--i mean we don&#039;t even know how the navi have sex--the whole point is that it&#039;s just a sick and unnecessary display of male domination that on screen comes across as an analogy for human rape).  

Also, from a movie perspective, that scene is just way too long and I actually think it&#039;s completely out of character for Jake to claim &quot;YOU&#039;RE MINE&quot; and not say something like, &quot;and I am yours.&quot;  Up to that point, the whole &quot;nobody owns anything, we are all part of one world&quot; spiel seemed to be the message that the movie was supposedly trying to get across. 

Side note: Kaden, just to be clear, I&#039;m seriously not saying that Jake literally raped the ikran, but I wanted to make a point about your argument anyways.  Saying that it wasn&#039;t rape because the ikran had the freedom to fly away instead of &quot;choosing&quot; to fight Jake kinda makes it seem like because the ikran &quot;chose&quot; him then he deserved whatever happened to him after that.  Obviously I&#039;m not saying that you think that in the real world victims of rape deserve their rape, I don&#039;t know your worldviews at all, I just wanted to point out a really common (and really damaging) rape myth: victim-blaming.  People will often say &quot;oh, she chose to have a drink&quot;, &quot;she chose to wear that outfit&quot;, &quot;she chose to hang out with him&quot;---essentially, she chose to act like a human being with the same legal rights as everyone else---and yet people don&#039;t bat an eye when she is &quot;punished&quot; for her actions and instead blame her for her &quot;choices.&quot;  Well what about the rapist who chose to fucking rape her?  I&#039;m just saying. 

Also, I know Avatar is &quot;just a movie,&quot; but I don&#039;t think that we should underestimate the power and influence of movies...They kinda both reflect social norms and help shape those norms.  So I am all for people voicing their opinions about this kinda stuff and I for one really like learning about things I may have overlooked when I watched.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Stephanie for pointing out what I thought was by far the most disturbing part of the movie!  I for one really enjoyed Avatar, saw it 4 times in theaters (three of those times were in Imax) and thought the effects were beautiful. But each freaking time I saw that scene with the ikran I just got more and more sickened. I was recently watching the dvd and I had to fastforward the scene, it&#8217;s so disturbing. That is just some BLATANT rape imagery (and kaden, I&#8217;m guessing most people don&#8217;t think Jake literally raped the ikran&#8211;i mean we don&#8217;t even know how the navi have sex&#8211;the whole point is that it&#8217;s just a sick and unnecessary display of male domination that on screen comes across as an analogy for human rape).  </p>
<p>Also, from a movie perspective, that scene is just way too long and I actually think it&#8217;s completely out of character for Jake to claim &#8220;YOU&#8217;RE MINE&#8221; and not say something like, &#8220;and I am yours.&#8221;  Up to that point, the whole &#8220;nobody owns anything, we are all part of one world&#8221; spiel seemed to be the message that the movie was supposedly trying to get across. </p>
<p>Side note: Kaden, just to be clear, I&#8217;m seriously not saying that Jake literally raped the ikran, but I wanted to make a point about your argument anyways.  Saying that it wasn&#8217;t rape because the ikran had the freedom to fly away instead of &#8220;choosing&#8221; to fight Jake kinda makes it seem like because the ikran &#8220;chose&#8221; him then he deserved whatever happened to him after that.  Obviously I&#8217;m not saying that you think that in the real world victims of rape deserve their rape, I don&#8217;t know your worldviews at all, I just wanted to point out a really common (and really damaging) rape myth: victim-blaming.  People will often say &#8220;oh, she chose to have a drink&#8221;, &#8220;she chose to wear that outfit&#8221;, &#8220;she chose to hang out with him&#8221;&#8212;essentially, she chose to act like a human being with the same legal rights as everyone else&#8212;and yet people don&#8217;t bat an eye when she is &#8220;punished&#8221; for her actions and instead blame her for her &#8220;choices.&#8221;  Well what about the rapist who chose to fucking rape her?  I&#8217;m just saying. </p>
<p>Also, I know Avatar is &#8220;just a movie,&#8221; but I don&#8217;t think that we should underestimate the power and influence of movies&#8230;They kinda both reflect social norms and help shape those norms.  So I am all for people voicing their opinions about this kinda stuff and I for one really like learning about things I may have overlooked when I watched.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaden</title>
		<link>http://challengeoppression.com/2010/02/16/domination-and-rape-in-avatar-this-is-respect-for-animals/#comment-1609</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kaden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 02:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ok, you people are pretty sad. one its just a movie, two this crap about rape is pretty rediculous to me i mean if the ikran wanted to it could have flown away like every other ikran did but it choose to fight him, so he defended himself by capturing the ikran and then bonding with it. now if truly the ikran had no freedom do you think they would have let him/her go free and wonder in the tree, no they would have caged it and let him sit there to rot until the master decided to come back and ride him/her again. also when jake sully got back into the avatar body and was alone after the home tree had been destroyed who was to come back for him but is loved ikran. so if you see what im saying the ikran still has freedom and was definatly not raped.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, you people are pretty sad. one its just a movie, two this crap about rape is pretty rediculous to me i mean if the ikran wanted to it could have flown away like every other ikran did but it choose to fight him, so he defended himself by capturing the ikran and then bonding with it. now if truly the ikran had no freedom do you think they would have let him/her go free and wonder in the tree, no they would have caged it and let him sit there to rot until the master decided to come back and ride him/her again. also when jake sully got back into the avatar body and was alone after the home tree had been destroyed who was to come back for him but is loved ikran. so if you see what im saying the ikran still has freedom and was definatly not raped.</p>
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