Comments on: Building Bridges, Burning Bridges http://challengeoppression.com/2010/01/06/building-bridges-burning-bridges/ Challenging oppression and injustice, against nonhuman animals, humans, and earth — one vegan, environmentalist, feminist, social-justice-loving, all-around-progressive post at a time. Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:43:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: exnikkijamesp6 http://challengeoppression.com/2010/01/06/building-bridges-burning-bridges/#comment-3574 Thu, 16 Jun 2011 05:31:48 +0000 http://challengeoppression.com/?p=2850#comment-3574 Good web-site yours sincerely, Jena Lorello

]]> By: seotonsgeek http://challengeoppression.com/2010/01/06/building-bridges-burning-bridges/#comment-2964 Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:47:13 +0000 http://challengeoppression.com/?p=2850#comment-2964 Seotons c’est célèbre
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]]> By: Kelly G. http://challengeoppression.com/2010/01/06/building-bridges-burning-bridges/#comment-448 Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:04:09 +0000 http://challengeoppression.com/?p=2850#comment-448 Can’t we interpret an animal’s will to live – however measured – as consent? (I’m not arguing this specifically in Fay’s case, just in general.)

]]> By: veganprimate http://challengeoppression.com/2010/01/06/building-bridges-burning-bridges/#comment-447 Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:50:20 +0000 http://challengeoppression.com/?p=2850#comment-447 Hmm, I skimmed through that stuff about Faye on the Mutts ‘n Stuff site, and I gotta say, she should have been euthanized.

Surgery is violence. And Faye had several surgeries before she ended up passing away. Animals cannot give consent. It is wrong to make animals fight b/c they cannot consent to being used in that manner, but it is also wrong to subject an animal to several invasive, risky, painful medical procedures as well. Faye did not consent to those surgeries anymore than she consented to be used for dog fighting.

Medicine is institutionalized violence and in the name of doing good, consent is overlooked time and again. Sure, Faye cannot consent to be euthanized anymore than she can consent to multiple surgeries, but which one will cause the least amount of pain?

Besides that, where did the vet who performed her surgery learn those techniques? Veterinary school, where they routinely get animals from shelters and repeatedly violate them (again, without consent).

]]> By: Emergency/Disaster Relief in Haiti: Animal Rescue & Animal-Friendly Resources » V for Vegan: easyVegan.info http://challengeoppression.com/2010/01/06/building-bridges-burning-bridges/#comment-441 Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:29:35 +0000 http://challengeoppression.com/?p=2850#comment-441 [...] The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) & The Humane Society International (HSI): As of 1/13/10, the HSUS and HSI have expressed their willingness to provide assistance. However, I caution against donating to either of these organizations due to the HSUS’s misuse of Hurricane Katrina funds, as well as recent fundraising scandals. [...]

]]> By: Ben DeVries http://challengeoppression.com/2010/01/06/building-bridges-burning-bridges/#comment-380 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:38:33 +0000 http://challengeoppression.com/?p=2850#comment-380 “Monopoly building and idol worship are harmful and self-destructive.” Well said, Kelly. It’s amazing how subtle, or not so subtle, the pull of these forms of pride and self-centeredness can be even when approaching the issue from a faith-based perspective and context. My work with Not One Sparrow finds its home in the Christian community, and I constantly have to remind myself that God is as interested in building a unified and loving community as he is an indenpendent advocacy effort. Thanks again for an excellent post – Ben D.

]]> By: Kelly G. http://challengeoppression.com/2010/01/06/building-bridges-burning-bridges/#comment-282 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:21:38 +0000 http://challengeoppression.com/?p=2850#comment-282 Smith traces the rise of the NPIC back to the ’60s and ’70s – so it’s somewhat difficult for me to imagine what a more cooperative, egalitarian model might look like, since all I’ve ever seen is business as usual.

Well, scratch that. In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, a number of animal rescue groups and individual rescuers – locally and nationally – pulled together to form a collaborative, grassroots movement. In addition to animal rescue, they developed a lasting, mobile infrastructure to facilitate rapid response in emergency situations. Looking in from the outside (and perhaps things were/are different on the ground), there seemed to be no small degree of cooperation, sharing of resources, etc. – at least between the smaller groups (HSUS, not so much).

Thanks for the comments, all!

]]> By: Philip Steir http://challengeoppression.com/2010/01/06/building-bridges-burning-bridges/#comment-276 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:11:31 +0000 http://challengeoppression.com/?p=2850#comment-276 Great post!! I need to get Nathan’s book. I forgot about it. Love the Colbert photo!!
This subject doesn’t need to be so much about welfare vs animal rights or whatever…But its important to point out how the large groups have hurt the momentum of animal rights as a serious issue. It’s really quite tragic.
I just interviewd Gary Francione today on my blog Vegan Sanctuary and we talk about this same exact issue and angle. I’m hoping the animal sanctuary supporters who go to my blog will at least look into some of these ideas and angles as well…. especially the ones who supported Prop 2 in California.
Thanks.

]]> By: Deb http://challengeoppression.com/2010/01/06/building-bridges-burning-bridges/#comment-272 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:09:57 +0000 http://challengeoppression.com/?p=2850#comment-272 I’ve been meaning to get my hands on that book for quite a while. Now it’s moved up in priority! Great post. And I love your freudian slip! :D

]]> By: Tracy Habenicht http://challengeoppression.com/2010/01/06/building-bridges-burning-bridges/#comment-271 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 22:50:57 +0000 http://challengeoppression.com/?p=2850#comment-271 Kelly, thanks for this well-written, thought-provoking post. I’d never considered the non-profit angle, but it does make sense.

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