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		<title>By: Mary Martin</title>
		<link>http://challengeoppression.com/2009/12/20/on-the-difficulties-of-volunteering/#comment-536</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks johanna.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks johanna.</p>
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		<title>By: johanna</title>
		<link>http://challengeoppression.com/2009/12/20/on-the-difficulties-of-volunteering/#comment-535</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Mary -- sorry for the delay in reply.

Being logged in as a WordPress user confuses me -- if I leave a comment w/a username registered to a blog, shouldn&#039;t it show up as linked to my name? Augh! Anyway -- I started the &lt;a href=&quot;http://vegansofcolor.wordpress.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vegans of Color&lt;/a&gt; blog, &amp; there are a lot of posts there from myself &amp; the other bloggers about how white vegans often alienate POCs. There are also resources listed for people wanting to educate themselves more about race.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mary &#8212; sorry for the delay in reply.</p>
<p>Being logged in as a WordPress user confuses me &#8212; if I leave a comment w/a username registered to a blog, shouldn&#8217;t it show up as linked to my name? Augh! Anyway &#8212; I started the <a href="http://vegansofcolor.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">Vegans of Color</a> blog, &amp; there are a lot of posts there from myself &amp; the other bloggers about how white vegans often alienate POCs. There are also resources listed for people wanting to educate themselves more about race.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Martin</title>
		<link>http://challengeoppression.com/2009/12/20/on-the-difficulties-of-volunteering/#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, the fur thing is sort of incomprehensible. I know in the most important way it&#039;s the same as leather, but society says they&#039;re different and that there is definitely a controversy around fur (but not around leather) and that people who claim to love animals don&#039;t wear fur. 

They make it clear you&#039;re not welcome? I remember the first time I read &quot;White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack&quot; I was amazed by all of the things I don&#039;t think about and don&#039;t affect me or are easier than they could be simply because of the color of my skin. I thought: I&#039;m one of those people who some might call &quot;white elitist&quot; and I know it&#039;s an insult and I have no idea what I&#039;m doing to put myself in that category.

How about writing a post here at Animal Rights &amp; Anti-Oppression, or a dialogue with yours truly? Pretty please?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, the fur thing is sort of incomprehensible. I know in the most important way it&#8217;s the same as leather, but society says they&#8217;re different and that there is definitely a controversy around fur (but not around leather) and that people who claim to love animals don&#8217;t wear fur. </p>
<p>They make it clear you&#8217;re not welcome? I remember the first time I read &#8220;White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack&#8221; I was amazed by all of the things I don&#8217;t think about and don&#8217;t affect me or are easier than they could be simply because of the color of my skin. I thought: I&#8217;m one of those people who some might call &#8220;white elitist&#8221; and I know it&#8217;s an insult and I have no idea what I&#8217;m doing to put myself in that category.</p>
<p>How about writing a post here at Animal Rights &amp; Anti-Oppression, or a dialogue with yours truly? Pretty please?</p>
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		<title>By: johanna</title>
		<link>http://challengeoppression.com/2009/12/20/on-the-difficulties-of-volunteering/#comment-268</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to volunteer with a cat rescue group run by someone employed by a large welfarist animal sanctuary, so yeah... we got in some interesting/frustrating discussions. Years &amp; years ago, looking for my first post-college job, I had a job interview at the ASPCA &amp; someone at their office mentioned that not infrequently board members would wear fur to fundraising dinners!

But what struck me most about this post (&amp; the comments) was that more often I don&#039;t even get to the point of finding out about these inconsistencies regarding animals. So often people who claim to advocate for animals (even those whose animal politics I do agree w/) end up alienating me right from the start as a non-white person. Or as a female. We don&#039;t even get to debating the nitty-gritty of tactics because they are making it clear that I&#039;m not welcome (or I&#039;m only welcome if I shed anything that puts me outside white male straight etc. identity).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to volunteer with a cat rescue group run by someone employed by a large welfarist animal sanctuary, so yeah&#8230; we got in some interesting/frustrating discussions. Years &amp; years ago, looking for my first post-college job, I had a job interview at the ASPCA &amp; someone at their office mentioned that not infrequently board members would wear fur to fundraising dinners!</p>
<p>But what struck me most about this post (&amp; the comments) was that more often I don&#8217;t even get to the point of finding out about these inconsistencies regarding animals. So often people who claim to advocate for animals (even those whose animal politics I do agree w/) end up alienating me right from the start as a non-white person. Or as a female. We don&#8217;t even get to debating the nitty-gritty of tactics because they are making it clear that I&#8217;m not welcome (or I&#8217;m only welcome if I shed anything that puts me outside white male straight etc. identity).</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Martin</title>
		<link>http://challengeoppression.com/2009/12/20/on-the-difficulties-of-volunteering/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m thinking that Food Not Bombs http://www.foodnotbombs.net/ might be a good place to go. There is one near me, but not operating currently. But there is one about 20 miles south and it would seem to me that they&#039;d be a great partner for nonprofits who have a health component to their programs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking that Food Not Bombs <a href="http://www.foodnotbombs.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.foodnotbombs.net/</a> might be a good place to go. There is one near me, but not operating currently. But there is one about 20 miles south and it would seem to me that they&#8217;d be a great partner for nonprofits who have a health component to their programs.</p>
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		<title>By: brittany</title>
		<link>http://challengeoppression.com/2009/12/20/on-the-difficulties-of-volunteering/#comment-84</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The more I read these stories and reflect on my own experiences, the more I am of the impression that these kinds of organizations need a communications specialist. By that I mean someone - likely an empathic someone - with either advanced training in the actual art of communication or perhaps a therapist/psychologist who can help people recognize the importance of diverse coalitions and honoring everyone&#039;s needs and views. If you had someone on staff at one of these organizations who was truly gifted in dissecting words, intentions, and meaning, as well as facilitating constructive communication, don&#039;t you think they&#039;d have more long-term, energized volunteers?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I read these stories and reflect on my own experiences, the more I am of the impression that these kinds of organizations need a communications specialist. By that I mean someone &#8211; likely an empathic someone &#8211; with either advanced training in the actual art of communication or perhaps a therapist/psychologist who can help people recognize the importance of diverse coalitions and honoring everyone&#8217;s needs and views. If you had someone on staff at one of these organizations who was truly gifted in dissecting words, intentions, and meaning, as well as facilitating constructive communication, don&#8217;t you think they&#8217;d have more long-term, energized volunteers?</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly G.</title>
		<link>http://challengeoppression.com/2009/12/20/on-the-difficulties-of-volunteering/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A group&#039;s ability to effect change in this area might also be limited by its focus and resources. For example, educating clientele about nutrition is a good start, but won&#039;t have much of an impact if there aren&#039;t any grocery stores serving the immediate area. Aside from lobbying the local government (e.g., to offer incentives to grocers who set up shop in the area; for better school lunch options), how can you (i.e., groups for at-risk youths and similar) provide better access to healthy foods, and on a regular, sustainable basis? 

Of course, most of the people working/volunteering with these groups consume meat themselves, and see nothing wrong/unhealthy/unjust about a diet based on animal flesh and secretions. So, there&#039;s that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A group&#8217;s ability to effect change in this area might also be limited by its focus and resources. For example, educating clientele about nutrition is a good start, but won&#8217;t have much of an impact if there aren&#8217;t any grocery stores serving the immediate area. Aside from lobbying the local government (e.g., to offer incentives to grocers who set up shop in the area; for better school lunch options), how can you (i.e., groups for at-risk youths and similar) provide better access to healthy foods, and on a regular, sustainable basis? </p>
<p>Of course, most of the people working/volunteering with these groups consume meat themselves, and see nothing wrong/unhealthy/unjust about a diet based on animal flesh and secretions. So, there&#8217;s that.</p>
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		<title>By: KJ</title>
		<link>http://challengeoppression.com/2009/12/20/on-the-difficulties-of-volunteering/#comment-77</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to volunteer at a thrift store run by a group that advocated for animals - both &quot;food&quot; and pet species - that was all about paper towels and disposable everything. When I pointed out that it was causing a lot o waste that could be easily avoided, I got some lecture about how they&#039;re saving the animals, not the environment. It bothered me, but I continued to volunteer with them. 

Maybe a week or two later, they asked me to run their sidewalk vegan hot dog stand for a few hours after one of the employees called in sick. After a couple hours I idly started reading ingredients. There was milk in the buns. I mentioned that to whoever was in charge when they relieved me at the end of the day. They weren&#039;t concerned because it was just a little milk. I did not volunteer with them again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to volunteer at a thrift store run by a group that advocated for animals &#8211; both &#8220;food&#8221; and pet species &#8211; that was all about paper towels and disposable everything. When I pointed out that it was causing a lot o waste that could be easily avoided, I got some lecture about how they&#8217;re saving the animals, not the environment. It bothered me, but I continued to volunteer with them. </p>
<p>Maybe a week or two later, they asked me to run their sidewalk vegan hot dog stand for a few hours after one of the employees called in sick. After a couple hours I idly started reading ingredients. There was milk in the buns. I mentioned that to whoever was in charge when they relieved me at the end of the day. They weren&#8217;t concerned because it was just a little milk. I did not volunteer with them again.</p>
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		<title>By: Marji</title>
		<link>http://challengeoppression.com/2009/12/20/on-the-difficulties-of-volunteering/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marji]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re the same way at Animal Place. No animal products allowed. People get it too, and hopefully they&#039;ll get that they can continue with the logic and reduce or eliminate animal products at home.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re the same way at Animal Place. No animal products allowed. People get it too, and hopefully they&#8217;ll get that they can continue with the logic and reduce or eliminate animal products at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Marji</title>
		<link>http://challengeoppression.com/2009/12/20/on-the-difficulties-of-volunteering/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marji]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve generally volunteered for dog and cat facilities, but all have rescued farmed animals. The disconnect is startling. While staff ended up supportive of my choices and always had vegan options at events, there wasn&#039;t a realization that the chickens and lambs rescued from cruelty cases are no different than the ones they were eating. 

Frustratingly, trying to implement policy change at animal shelters, even the most progressive, is difficult. Look at the Humane Society of Missouri. They run a farmed animal sanctuary and adoption center. And their fundraising for the farmed animal adoption center involved having a horse polo event and raffling off a bbq dinner for four. There&#039;s also Lollypop farm in New York - none of their events are vegetarian, let alone vegan, yet they rescue the same animals they serve at their functions. Most humane societies and spcas do not have vegetarian menu policies even though a) the public gets it (don&#039;t serve who you save); b) it&#039;s easy to implement and c) it properly aligns your rescue ethics with your actions.

I think it would probably be easier to create a paradigm shift with human-related programs from a health perspective than to create a paradigm shift with most animal-related programs from a compassionate point of view. That&#039;s sad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve generally volunteered for dog and cat facilities, but all have rescued farmed animals. The disconnect is startling. While staff ended up supportive of my choices and always had vegan options at events, there wasn&#8217;t a realization that the chickens and lambs rescued from cruelty cases are no different than the ones they were eating. </p>
<p>Frustratingly, trying to implement policy change at animal shelters, even the most progressive, is difficult. Look at the Humane Society of Missouri. They run a farmed animal sanctuary and adoption center. And their fundraising for the farmed animal adoption center involved having a horse polo event and raffling off a bbq dinner for four. There&#8217;s also Lollypop farm in New York &#8211; none of their events are vegetarian, let alone vegan, yet they rescue the same animals they serve at their functions. Most humane societies and spcas do not have vegetarian menu policies even though a) the public gets it (don&#8217;t serve who you save); b) it&#8217;s easy to implement and c) it properly aligns your rescue ethics with your actions.</p>
<p>I think it would probably be easier to create a paradigm shift with human-related programs from a health perspective than to create a paradigm shift with most animal-related programs from a compassionate point of view. That&#8217;s sad.</p>
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